Life usually doesn't fit into nice neat little lists, but that
doesn't keep me from trying. Welcome to my Tuesday 10, where I try to fit
the messiness of life into a list of ten.
Today I'm taking a look at the fifteenth chapter of the Gospel of Luke. It's an incredibly interesting bit where Jesus shares three parables with a mixed crowd of both "sinners" and the religious Pharisees.
1. v2 The religious people thought Jesus fraternizing with the "lost" was scandalous.
2. v7, 9, & 10 Heaven rejoices over the salvation of the lost, and so should we.
3. v13 Just because we have it, doesn't mean we should spend it.
4. v14 Don't waste it, you might need it.
5. v17-19 Your journey to forgiveness starts with your realization that you need forgiving.
6. v20 The Father welcomes back the lost without condition.
7. v21 Confession is important.
8. v22-24 Nothing but sonship will do. God doesn't make us servants. He makes us family.
9. v25-27 Don't be so caught up in your works that you miss God working.
10. v28-31 Stop trying to earn what the Father already gave you.
Showing posts with label forgiveness. Show all posts
Showing posts with label forgiveness. Show all posts
Tuesday, March 6, 2012
Monday, October 24, 2011
Does God Punish Us?
The following is a conversation I had with a student through facebook
chat about some questions that were bothering them following our
discussion last night about evil and suffering in relation to God. I
have edited it to protect their identity, however, they did give their
consent for me to post this.
S = Student, N = me
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S: im here
N: how about that. me too :P
S: lol
N: to answer your question... "does God punish us for our sin?" it's a complicated answer. yes and no. it depends on a number of things.
S: lol. well that may be a starting point.....to maybe make things more simple....my question was going to be where does the asking for forgiveness and repentance come in...and u guys may of discussed that
N: ok here we go. Punishment for sin comes in a variety of ways. There are instances in the Bible where God directly punished people for sin. those were known as Judgments in the scriptures
we talked a little about judgment tonight. judgment was God's direct punishment for wickedness and is always preceded by a warning from God in some form. sometimes sin does not result in direct punishment but it may still result in consequences that are bad. like if a person decides to get drunk and then drives their car off a bridge.
S: lol. nice example.....this is a bit more complex than i had thought.
N: God didn't make them drive their car off a bridge. they made the choice to get drunk and it inhibited their ability to drive.
S: and this is where free will comes in play?
N: yes, it's our free will that gives equal opportunity for good or evil but the original design was for good with a capacity for evil. when God created Adam and Eve they were perfect and good. they didn't even know what evil was. the tree they ate from was the "Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil".
S: ok.....alright. so, lets say someone gets drunk, gets arrested for dwi,...the person makes a drastic life change, repents...God promises to forgive and not hold it over us as long as we repent.......but there are still the earthly consequences....right?
N: Usually yeah
S: ok
N: but there are rare occassions when we are spared from those as well. for example: i knew an addict who got instantly delivered from drugs by God on the spot when he prayed for salvation and he was miraculously spared from nasty withdrawals.
S: right. so, do you think the reason a lot of people view these pain and suffering is simply of earthly consequences, not as some form of punishment from God....like the current economy for instance?
N: yeah, i believe the current economic state is a natural result of man's sin and not a result of God punishing us. at the end of the day, we're usually our own worst enemy.
S: but people can't realize a difference in punishment from God and natural consequences....and its easier to say that we have an unjust God, rather than taking accountability.....as could be said for many things.
N: bingo, always remember this... People refuse to accept responsibility for their actions.
it started with Adam. when God asked him why he ate of the forbidden fruit, adam responded, "it's that woman you put here with me, she gave me some of the fruit and i ate of it." Adam was trying to shuffle the blame off to Eve and even God himself. we always like to paint ourselves as innocent.
S: ahh ok. im getting my head around this now
N: yay! :)
S: ok cool. well i was most confused about where the purpose of forgiveness comes into play in the whole situation. but now seeing a distinct line between God’s will and earthly things, i understand....
N: sure, let me address forgiveness and repentance real quick then i'll hop off of here.
S: go for it
N: once man sinned we created a rift between us and God. before that time God showed up physically as a presence to be with adam and eve. genesis says "he walked with them in the garden in the cool of the day."
N: the only way for God to repair that union is by offering forgiveness and the only way for us to attain his forgiveness is by repentance.
forgiveness is at it's core, when an offended party does not claim their right to payment from the one who is indebted to them.
repentance is the act of recognizing your offense against someone, and pledging not to perpetrate that same offense again.
S: i like the clarification
N: the mistake people make when they start talking about forgiveness is in thinking that there is never a payment made for the wrong that was committed but ultimately, God doesn't outright punish us. he accepts the punishment that Christ took on our behalf as his payment. it's the core reason why arguing that evil and suffering are a result of God is such a feeble argument.
S: makes sense. thanks for the discussion!
N: no problem. i really hope that helped. God bless!
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I hope this helps somebody.
S = Student, N = me
*****************************
S: im here
N: how about that. me too :P
S: lol
N: to answer your question... "does God punish us for our sin?" it's a complicated answer. yes and no. it depends on a number of things.
S: lol. well that may be a starting point.....to maybe make things more simple....my question was going to be where does the asking for forgiveness and repentance come in...and u guys may of discussed that
N: ok here we go. Punishment for sin comes in a variety of ways. There are instances in the Bible where God directly punished people for sin. those were known as Judgments in the scriptures
we talked a little about judgment tonight. judgment was God's direct punishment for wickedness and is always preceded by a warning from God in some form. sometimes sin does not result in direct punishment but it may still result in consequences that are bad. like if a person decides to get drunk and then drives their car off a bridge.
S: lol. nice example.....this is a bit more complex than i had thought.
N: God didn't make them drive their car off a bridge. they made the choice to get drunk and it inhibited their ability to drive.
S: and this is where free will comes in play?
N: yes, it's our free will that gives equal opportunity for good or evil but the original design was for good with a capacity for evil. when God created Adam and Eve they were perfect and good. they didn't even know what evil was. the tree they ate from was the "Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil".
S: ok.....alright. so, lets say someone gets drunk, gets arrested for dwi,...the person makes a drastic life change, repents...God promises to forgive and not hold it over us as long as we repent.......but there are still the earthly consequences....right?
N: Usually yeah
S: ok
N: but there are rare occassions when we are spared from those as well. for example: i knew an addict who got instantly delivered from drugs by God on the spot when he prayed for salvation and he was miraculously spared from nasty withdrawals.
S: right. so, do you think the reason a lot of people view these pain and suffering is simply of earthly consequences, not as some form of punishment from God....like the current economy for instance?
N: yeah, i believe the current economic state is a natural result of man's sin and not a result of God punishing us. at the end of the day, we're usually our own worst enemy.
S: but people can't realize a difference in punishment from God and natural consequences....and its easier to say that we have an unjust God, rather than taking accountability.....as could be said for many things.
N: bingo, always remember this... People refuse to accept responsibility for their actions.
it started with Adam. when God asked him why he ate of the forbidden fruit, adam responded, "it's that woman you put here with me, she gave me some of the fruit and i ate of it." Adam was trying to shuffle the blame off to Eve and even God himself. we always like to paint ourselves as innocent.
S: ahh ok. im getting my head around this now
N: yay! :)
S: ok cool. well i was most confused about where the purpose of forgiveness comes into play in the whole situation. but now seeing a distinct line between God’s will and earthly things, i understand....
N: sure, let me address forgiveness and repentance real quick then i'll hop off of here.
S: go for it
N: once man sinned we created a rift between us and God. before that time God showed up physically as a presence to be with adam and eve. genesis says "he walked with them in the garden in the cool of the day."
N: the only way for God to repair that union is by offering forgiveness and the only way for us to attain his forgiveness is by repentance.
forgiveness is at it's core, when an offended party does not claim their right to payment from the one who is indebted to them.
repentance is the act of recognizing your offense against someone, and pledging not to perpetrate that same offense again.
S: i like the clarification
N: the mistake people make when they start talking about forgiveness is in thinking that there is never a payment made for the wrong that was committed but ultimately, God doesn't outright punish us. he accepts the punishment that Christ took on our behalf as his payment. it's the core reason why arguing that evil and suffering are a result of God is such a feeble argument.
S: makes sense. thanks for the discussion!
N: no problem. i really hope that helped. God bless!
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I hope this helps somebody.
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Thursday, September 29, 2011
T is for Turn
Being reconciled to God along His plan of salvation means
that at some point one must make a change.
In other words, you must eventually turn away from the habitual failures
of the past to embrace a forgiving future life endowed by the Father. Unless this turning to God takes place, there
is no salvation. A commonly used word
for this act of turning to God is “repent”.
I tell you, no! But
unless you repent, you too will all perish – Luke 13:3
To turn to God is to embrace the realization that you need
His forgiveness, you recognize it is available; you know it is impossible apart
from Him, and you are desiring a new life. I find it incredibly humbling that something
with such far reaching affects can be accomplished with such ease. One need only do as described in Romans 10:9
to find salvation.
If you declare with
your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from
the dead, you will be saved. – Romans 10:9
Turning means to walk away from sin, and selfishness, to
embrace Christ alone.
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I is for Impossible
Sin separates man from God.
You need only to go back and read the third chapter of Genesis for the
sad account of Adam and Eve and their failures in the Garden. As a result of their actions God forever
removes them from his presence. A condition
we all face prior to salvation is our eternal separation from God.
As it is written: “There
is no one righteous, not even one” – Romans 3:10
It is impossible for God to allow sin into heaven. God is loving and just, his judgment is
against sin, and we are all sinners. How
then can a sinful person enter heaven, when God allows no sin?
Mercy triumphs over
judgment. – James 2:13
Just as we are inclined to communicate the necessity of
forgiveness and it’s availability; it is also of upmost importance that we realize
access to God is impossible apart from God’s own means.
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A is for Available
Just as the first talking point in the “plan of salvation”
is forgiveness, or helping someone to realize their need for it, the second is
the availability of forgiveness to any who come to God seeking it.
For God so loved the
world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
perish but have eternal life. – John 3:16
Most of us are incredibly familiar with this oft-quoted
passage, but a key component of salvation that often goes overlooked is that it
does require something on our part.
Not everyone who says
to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who
does the will of my Father who is in heaven. – Matthew 7:21
Forgiveness is available for all, but it is not
automatic. It requires acknowledging our
need for God, accepting the forgiveness that is available, and submitting to
God’s will for our lives.
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Wednesday, September 28, 2011
F is for FORGIVENESS
So often Christians desire to share their faith with people,
but aren’t really sure what to say. Sometimes
an authentic God-centered lifestyle really is enough to spark conversation
about faith, and sometimes it takes words, but at some point it will always
lead to discussing what is commonly referred to as the “plan of salvation.”
I’m going to spend the next few posts looking at an acronym
for faith I came across while studying several years ago. Yes, it is cheesy, as all good acronyms
typically are, but its principles are superb.
It is essentially your primary talking points when discussing salvation
with someone unfamiliar to this concept.
F is for FORGIVENESS.
In him we have
redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the
riches of God’s grace. – Ephesians 1:7
Each of us needs forgiveness in our lives. Your failures and moral misgivings are your
own. No one else can vouch for them,
well no one amongst your normal social circles.
The fact of the matter is that we are, all of us, in desperate need of reconnection
with the Father. This is only achieved
through forgiveness, which in turn only comes through Christ.
The first point of communication then is in helping someone
understand their need for God. Until
they realize this, there is no moving forward.
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